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Hello guys, i just wanna know if anyone know/have any LFS hacks to get faster speed...

If no, is there anyone who can help me to do such thing be tsearch pls?

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Im quite sure i had this discussion somewhere here, but maybe it was just a PM. I wanted to take a look into LFS, but i kind a forgot it.
Which LFS are we talking about ? the latest i assume ? if not the latest, then which one ?

NOTE that i have not checked that game yet (i mean i have played it, 1 and 2, but not hacked it) so i can give few general tips for now.
You should check the GRID hacking topic, because LFS has lot of config files if i remember right. so you can use those config and/or setting files to get info out of them and then search them.
I won't give any promises, but ill try to take a look in it. im kind a interested in it too, but always some crap gets in middle and i forget it again doh. ill download it and see what can be done, if you don't want to wait, then you can always test on your own. if you have questions like what tool is best or what to search etc..then feel free to post em here.
But i'd check the game folder first to see if there's any 'readable' files where could be useful info (like some car specs..etc which you can search for).
ofcourse you can change the file directly, but it won't work online probaly. its a good way to test if you find such files. change it and then test in single player. if it works, then change it back and try to find it in a memory scanner/editor.
Anyways read the GRID hacking topic to realize how you can find stuff in memory or watch the GRID - how to hack, how to make TurboBoost video tutorial. those should give you ideas.

also there's one nice tool by Luigi which can modify some data to get some cool effects, but its quite old and i doubt it works on later versions. anyways you can always try it out - lfsanus
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ok i understand, but how can i discover whats the numbers of engines, hp, etc... there are alot of numbers :X
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ofcourse there are lots of numbers. you just have to do research on game and see what is what. this is why the config files are best.
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well i dont understand one thing, i search for the number of my HP, and i find for example 30 values. ok then i go to LFS and change HP to one less, and that 30 values no one changes :X so how can i change that numbers? :X
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i don't think that its really HP. It is just a visual thing, which is probably not what it shows. in most car games theres lot of factors that effect engine power. like revs ..etc. so you may have to change about 10 things to get more 'power'.
As about your case, this 30 is not right then, its something else. Also some games does not chagne the value right away (they use some cache or whatever it is). so it is written to that address after you exit the setup screen (or whatever it is in game). For example in GRID you had to EXIT the status screen and reenter it, then changes took effect, but i doubt its that easy.

You can try the increased and decreased. First you search for unknown and then use increased and decreased, depending on what you do, either decrease the value in game or increase it.



UPDATE:
i took a quick look in it and found a way to drive without the actual power of engine hmm... interesting. Wheels are spinning like crazy, but engine wasn't even running.
I made a quick Video too.

and here's what i did:
1. i searched for 0 on 4 bytes (while standing still, handbrake on and engine cut out)
2. started to drive SLOWLY and kept the speed and filtered for increased
3. drived faster and filtered for increased again.
4. braked just lil bit and filtered for decreased
5. i kept doing that about 20-40 times until i had about 20 addresses left, then i simply picked them one by one and tested.

huh ?
*I made 2 hotkeys for the filter process, so i never left game window (one for increased on 4 bytes and other for decreased on 4 bytes)
*I run the LFS2 in window mode, so i was able to see what values are doing.

So if you make hotkeys for increasing, decreasing and freezing, then you can make your car go a lot faster. it would act like a NOS hehe. If you know what to add (monitor the value while driving) then you can add a good boost on places where you need it.
for example make hotkey that will:
Freeze/unfreeze and also adds x value to current value, this will give you a boost on top of the speed you already have and keeps it, to get it off, simply press the hotkey again and it unfreezes it.
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well, what you said was very intressing. but i dont think i can do it myself :X probably you could help me... i would be very thanks to you.

PS: well i just have one question, those changes where made for online mode? i think if works in offline, works too in online, but im now sure about that. FDor example there's one program (tweak) that increases the power of engine, but, only in your server, and no one can join it when you change the car, cose server automacly says that you have not the same car as the server (person who open server and used tweak)

Sry for bad inglish :X
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This is why you can't use mods, but you have to hack the game. it will work in all servers if you do it with a memory editor and change it in memory. If i would only know the values .. it would be very easy to hack.
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im trying to do something but is hard.. nothing that i do work :X
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well you just have to go for the unknown search and then filter for changed, not changed, increased or decreased. This works on almost all games. maybe ill try something else soon..
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i would be very thx to you if you do something :')
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no promises, but i think ill try few things i had in mind for a long time. certainly im not gonna release trainer if you meant that.
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just one question, how can i make hotkey to increse / decrese? cose that can help me alot!
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View - Options - Hotkeys
however it is not a topic for Tsearch support
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Well i find around 20 like you, and then i put hot key to each one, that multiply the value by2, but the only thing that I can change is the sound of the car...lol ... nothing about engine power, speed, wheels...
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oh you meant those hotkeys. i meant for searching doh, but it seems you got it anyways.
I used hotkeys to filter, without leaving the game window at all.
NOTE that the address i found had only effect when freezed while driving, when i manually put in the value it didn't had much effect. Also i had 2 functions under one hotkey, which are "increase by 200000 (cant member values)" and "freeze/unfreeze" Value has to be freezed, if you simply increase it, then it pops back to whatever it was and won't give you any boost.
..if you play around with the memory tools like this, then you may find lot of intresting things in there. I did that in AvP2 and i found some amazing things.
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well, i dont understand what freez/unfreeze makes.
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duh. it FREEZES the value. in other words Tsearch prevents game from changing it back to its orignial state (whatever it was before). If you don't freeze it, then game changes it back to whatever it was and does not have any effect. well in most shooting games..etc if you change ammo from 11 to 999, then it has effect, but still runs out. however in LFS, when you touch the accelerator pedal, it will change the value back, so you need to freeze it. (freeze = poke, depending on the version and tool you using).
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afff i cant made anything :((
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I made another hack > Nitrous !!
Well at least it looks like Nos, even sounds like Nos, even tho game does not have such thing in it.
Here's a demo > Live for Speed 2 - Nos / Nitro hack

Here's how i did it using Tsearch:

1. stop the car and cut off engine and put handbrake on
2. search 0 Float
3. start car and drive on steady speed (11kmh for example)
4. pause game while its still 11kmh
5. filter for "Range" Float 10 to 12
6. change speed in game. to like 40 (or something else you want)
7. pause game again and filter for "Range" Float 39 to 41
8. keep doing that until you end up with 4 (or 8 on some cases) addresses
9. now those 4 addresses represent each wheel's speed
- make hotkey for each wheel and make the hotkey "Add to current value" (choose the value on your own, i used 500 in my video)
- now when you hit the hotkey, it will give you a nice boost like demonstrated on video
NOTE - you have to keep STEADY speed while pausing (keep the speed on 11 for at least 2 secs) OR you can search for wider range, which will take way longer. for example if speed is 11 then search 9 - 13.
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just one problem, i drive with mouse, so how can i put the car at the same speed for 2 sec?

PS: can you go msn for we talk easy pls?
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ok i found them!!!

but!!!

i use hotkey, then i get the boost, ok, but when i get to the boxes, and go again, the values changes... is there anyway to keep the same?
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ah yes they do change. you can use the debugger, but im not quite sure what to change there, i haven't tried it yet, but yes its possible to make something like trainer to prevent them from changing. I mean its possible to give a boost whenever you need it without searching them again.
For now you can set the address range in Tsearch options. so you will probably find it with 1 or 2 searches/filter.
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yes thats what i done, in 1m i get it, then i can go race
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well i guess i will keep messing around with it, but i cant promise anything.
you can also check the tutorial about the basic game hacking and see how debugger in Tsearch works, maybe you find a way there.
as far as i know about LFS2, it seems that each speed has different address...so in theory if you add like 500 or more addresses into cheat list and make hotkeys where necessary, then you should have permanent speed hack.
Example:
when you accelerate and speed should be 1kmh, then game reads that 1 from address and then puts it on a MAIN address.
if you change the source address's value to like 10, then if you accelerate, you will get 10 instead of 1.
at least it seems that game uses 1 address for 1 value. including the 1.2 ..etc values. ill do some more research some time.
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well i will study that's values, and try to get some ''connection'' between them.

Later i post here what i found :)
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i found the breakpoints for those addresses, but even breakpoints changed. so you really need some research on how to make trainer and how to defeat DMA.
if you wanna know more here's few tips which you can search:
-how to defeat DMA (DMA = dynamic memory allocation)
-how to make trainer
those are just simple and basic things you can search on google to see how you can do that, but i think that you need more here, because even breakpoints changes. you probably need to make image of the game's memory and based on that trainer can find the right place. I don't deal much with trainers anyway.
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well i found some connection:

XXXX8 -> Back left
xxxxc -> back right
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I forgot that. end of the address seem to be same always. it should be E8 and EC. I remember that last 2 or 3 digits was always same.
however to find it in 1-2 scans, just go to Tsearch Options - Search - Range - User Defined and then put in the address range where those addresses are. to me it was like 42000E8 to 52000E8. or something like that. then Tsearch only searches values in that range.
also it is possible to make a trainer that attached itself to a program.exe and prevents the address change instead. I mean this is how they make trainers for such games.
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Well i search in internet, but nothing works... i think ther
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well i made one trainer, but dont work very well, when you can pls go msn for i give you and you see what can i do... pls, ty
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Hi, Sethioz

Thank you of this hack, it is fully working in publick servers, with this hack i have much faster car, now i will tell what i done:
I have searched for all of these values till left 4, afer that set hotkey to add 3 to each cheatable value, each time when i pressed it, and i have downloaded strobe for lfs, strobe pushes my hotkey every 1mili second, :D and a result: No signs of nitro, but speed is much much faster, sound is like normal, so other players who is specating, cant realy see why its realy fast... .dh.
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you can't change server side things, like money and such, thats why, but you should still be able to find them.
maybe TeamRetox can make a trainer like tool for LFS 1/2 with the adjustable nitro button, i only show what is possible to do.
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Sethioz wrote:you can't change server side things, like money and such, thats why, but you should still be able to find them.
maybe TeamRetox can make a trainer like tool for LFS 1/2 with the adjustable nitro button, i only show what is possible to do.
Oh i see now, i'l try to do something with speed. Just its sucks when i have to find cheatable values each time when i come to garage..
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i just show what can be done, i don't write trainers. maybe you can use debugger (autohack in tsearch) to find the breakpoints or something. read the basic tutorials.
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That is what i'm trying to do now. :)
It is taking long time to find these values at the start, but now noone can catch me now .dh.
I will look at these tutorials tomorrow and i will try something...
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you can read this > How to hack / get unlimited ammo in single player games
uh ? yeah well this explains how to use debugger in Tsearch. it does not matter if its ammo or speed, finding out the breakpoints is still same. i can't remember why i did not do that in LFS, i think i tried, but something went wrong, can't remember.

OR you can ask TeamRetox to write a tutorial on how to make a trainer out of this (actually i would like to have it on forum too)
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Ok, i find these 4 addresses with OllyDbg v2 and add them to hardware breakepoint, and so what i should do next? i can't understand your tutorial, if I enable these breakepoints OllyDbg just stops lfs process, and thasts all.. :( :(
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well i have not used olly to debug games, but when it stops, then it means it breaks (found a breakpoint). breakpoint is what you can use and it should not change.

i used Tsearch's autohack (debugger) to find the breakpoints needed, then i either use the "register" to change it to whatever i want or you can also use the "easywrite"
i haven't wrote detailed tutorial on how to use those things in Tsearch, but when you click on Tsearch's help, there's quite good tutorials.

you should easily be able to write your own small trainer with trainer maker kit or something like that, using the breakpoints you get.
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Sethioz wrote:well i have not used olly to debug games, but when it stops, then it means it breaks (found a breakpoint). breakpoint is what you can use and it should not change.

i used Tsearch's autohack (debugger) to find the breakpoints needed, then i either use the "register" to change it to whatever i want or you can also use the "easywrite"
i haven't wrote detailed tutorial on how to use those things in Tsearch, but when you click on Tsearch's help, there's quite good tutorials.

you should easily be able to write your own small trainer with trainer maker kit or something like that, using the breakpoints you get.
Now i get breake points with t-search i get 4(for each wheel) so I added 24 addreses to cheat list, but what to do now i dont understand? If i change values of these addresses lfs just crashes...
And as i sed with OllyDbg lfs just stops and i cant do anything until i disable breake points and push play button in OllyDbg :(
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duh, you can't really change breakpoints to anything you want.
to disable the function, you can change the values to 144 (90 in hex), but im not even sure what happens if you disable it lol, it should disable speed i think. only way to change the actual value is in register.

what you can try .. in the autohack window, click on the breakpoint, then look at bottom where is the "disassembler" window, there right click on first line and choose "register", then click on the "register" tab at bottom. there you will be able to edit the source value. if you change it there, then your speed should freeze on whatever value you want.
This is the method i used for GRID hacking > drift hack.

im not sure if you can make hotkeys for the register in Tsearch, but it should be possible in "easywrite" (tsearch's feature).
you should read Tsearch's tutorial on how to use easywrite, basically its like a trainer maker. you have to find empty place in memory where to write, call the address, write the new values there and then make game use them. i can't remember all commands from head, but it is in the Tsearch's default help.

i guess in future i will write my own tutorials on how to use easywrite (with good examples from games).
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Maybe the easyest way is use LFS Tweaker to change Cars power and etc.
You can find it from LFS Forum and some youtube videos have link to file.
It works only in Single player, but its still fun.
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haven't even heard of it. i don't play online anyways, but my method works online too :)
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Thank you with this hack, it is completely operating in publick servers, with this hack i have an amazing offer faster car, now i will inform what i done:
I have searched for all of those values until left 4, afer that arranged hotkey to include three to every one cheatable value, every one time when i pressed it, and i have downloaded strobe for lfs, strobe pushes my hotkey every one and every 1mili second, :D as well as a result: No indicators of nitro, but pace is definitely an amazing offer much faster, appear is like normal, so other game fanatics who is specating, cant realy see why its realy fast... .dh.
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