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Need help with pointers

Postby Masterjango » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:06 pm

Hi guys,

I have some trouble finding pointers. I don't have really much knowledge but I will try to explain.

The game is started with a launcher. Then you select a car and a track an press start. After that another exe is started where you actually play the game.

However I searched then for my value and made a pointer search how sethioz explained in his tutorial. I also found a pointer which always works when I choose exactly that car and that track whit which I found the pointer.

When I choose another combination the pointer is no longer working. My knowledge ends here and I can't explain what the game does so maybe someone can help me :).

Thanks,
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Re: Need help with pointers

Postby Sethioz » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:22 pm

1. find address that holds the car value (150)
2. do a pointer scan
3. change car (from value 150 to 250)
4. rescan the pointer results for value 250 (new car value is 250)

those values are just examples. In most games there's a generic pointer that works on all vehicles and tracks, but you gotta rescan while changing the vehicles.
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Re: Need help with pointers

Postby Masterjango » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:33 pm

I tried to rescan while changing track but then I didn't found any pointer after the rescan...but I will try tomorrow with changing the car what I can say although is that when I change the car on the same track, my pointer is also not working....
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Re: Need help with pointers

Postby Sethioz » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:28 am

how many different pointer levels and offset combinations have you tried?
try:
- level 5, 2000 offset
- level 1, 20000 offset
- level 2, 15000 offset
- level 5, 5000 offset (might take ages)
...etc, try manipulating the offset and level. In some games multi level pointers work better than level 1 with higher offset, in other games it is extremely easy and you can do level 1 with 1000 and find static pointer.

in some games you have working pointer even after there's a patch.
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Re: Need help with pointers

Postby Masterjango » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:06 pm

it seems like the game is not stupid :D.....

don't seem like I can find a static adress....I think that there are many levels of pointers....the scanning for that takes hours, any other method in order to find what I'm looking for?
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Re: Need help with pointers

Postby Sethioz » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:20 am

cuz you're doing it wrong, i told you to be careful with the high offsets / levels.
level 5 with offset 5000 should complete in 30 min or less. level 2 with like 30000 offset should complete in 10 mins .. unless you're using some wooden pc with single core.

you could follow this tutorial, might help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVLeInTi3qI
my friend made this to show how to find multi level pointers without scanning, but it's complex.
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Re: Need help with pointers

Postby Masterjango » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:05 am

when I do it with this method it suggest me a value where i don't find any address at all :(

Hex active - 4 bytes thats right or not?
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Re: Need help with pointers

Postby Sethioz » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:44 am

not sure what you saying. hex active ??
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