Fighter Maker hacking continued

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Fighter Maker hacking continued

Postby Rominucka » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:49 am

i think you need source files to be able to make the game again. im not sure how fighter maker works, but i think that its not possible to edit a complete game. what file format it uses ?

The source files (such as BMP & WAV) are compiled and converted into a proprietary file format...for example "FreddyKrueger.player". Once you load the game into Fighter Maker it should naturally unfold.

if fighter maker can open those files then it should be easy.
but what problem you have exactly ? why you cant extract files from game ?

I have a hex editor and disassembler but I don't know what to look for. The game (Terrordrome which was made with Fighter Maker) has been coded to not open in Fighter Maker so people can't steal the source files.
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Re: Fighter Maker hacking continued

Postby Sethioz » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:42 pm

ok so pretty much what you need is disassembling, right ?
onfortunetly for you, i really dont know much about that. all i can suggest is try googling for something like. how to extract fighter maker game files. extract Terrordrome files ..etc, if you havent done so.
there should be some guides that tells you how to get those files. what i can also suggest.
is to go to aluigi.org and post about it there. Luigi knows these things, he have written lots of converters and extractors, but he is not a hacker. you can post and ask if he knows how to extract files from such game.

if its not much trouble you can also post updates here if you find anything, i will also look around in google and some sites and see what i can find out.
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Re: Fighter Maker hacking continued

Postby Rominucka » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:21 am

Believe it or not, I tricked the guy into telling me how it's done.
You do it in a hex editor but you don't have to do anything fancy like changing a jump or anything.
In every file of the game (when opened in a hex editor) there's a series of letters and numbers at the top. All you have to do is change one of the letters to another letter.
Now that I have what I want I'm overwhelmed with over 800 sprites for one character and I'm starting to realize how difficult it's going to be to implement these sprites into my MUGEN character.
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Re: Fighter Maker hacking continued

Postby Sethioz » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:28 am

so it was like an encryption code ? that didnt allow to open it ? i mean that ''code'' was what prevented it opening in fighter maker ?
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Re: Fighter Maker hacking continued

Postby Rominucka » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:41 am

I guess.
You don't even need a hex editor to do it. You can open it in Notepad and change it like that. It's the first thing you see when you open it in Notepad. All you have to do is change the last letter from a G to a K, and it opens fine now in the editor.
The guy told me that the security is weak.
I don't know much about hacking but I would think that's pretty clever seeing as a hacker would look for something more complicated.
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Re: Fighter Maker hacking continued

Postby Sethioz » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:59 am

well its not hacking. it can be considered as decrypting, coding and game modding. its completely different from ''hacking''.
this G to K is probably part of the ''code'' that is used in fighter maker to reconize file. so if it is changed then it doesnt change anything in game, but fighter maker is unable to verify if its valid file and gives some error.

-HEX editor is needed on files that contain characters that cannot be read by text editor. so when you save the file then text editor simply ''dont know'' what to do with such characters and mess it up. so it doesnt only change the part you changed, but it changes a lot more and this is why those files become unusable by application.
normal notepad shows squares wherever it has a character it cant show and notepad++ actually shows something like ''NUL''. NUL is 00 in hex. notepad++ uses 3 character ''images'' to deal with such characters, but its still unable to save it as it was.
-for example if you open some game file with notepad or notepad++ and for example you delete letter ''a'' and retype it and then save it, then file becomes unusable by application already. so you dont even need to change anything, its because notepad cant handle such characters. so it means the file you edited does not have such characters
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