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Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby 7Ds » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:05 pm

So lately I been experimentin w/ Downsamplin and some graphics enhancers. Downsamplin is the art of forcin ur monitor to run @ an even higher resolution than was intended. No u won't ruin ur monitor as long as u keep its pixel clock in range.

Nvidia:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1237470/howt ... n-the-game

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=346325

AMD\ATI:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=366244




I was able to sneak 3840x2160 w/ my current monitor and @ that res, games take on a new level.

NFS Hot Pursuit Downsampled @ 3840x2160:

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Now for Graphics Enhancers:

SweetFX, hands down, u really can get some dramatic results if u mess w/ it long enough.

http://forum.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=368880
http://www.overclock.net/t/1296721/how- ... on-methods



Here is what it has done for 2 of my games:



Armed Assault 2 - Operation Arrowhead w/ SweetFX.

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TDU2 w/ SweetFX & my own attempt for Chrome Paint.

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A vid showing installation of FlightFX tool for "CeeJay.dk's SweetFX". This was made by "Gabriel Lazar" for "Rise of Flight" but can be used on various other games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcZvWHiAI_s

FlightFX + Presets: http://www.mediafire.com/file/klw8md119 ... resets.rar
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby Sethioz » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:03 pm

one thing i don't really understand, if my monitor has only 1920 pixels width and 1080 pixels height, how exactly can it use higher resolution ?
how would you go on splitting 1 pixel into 2 ? i mean physically, monitor has that many pixels, you can't just split the pixel into 2, graphics just look smaller, but it doesn't really do anything as far as i know.
on my screen, they look just like 1080p, nothing special.
i know there is something like physical resolution and virutal resolution, but still 1 pixel cannot be split into 2. using such HIGH resolutions, only edge i can think of, is the clear zooming. that if you zoom in, then you still have 1 pixel in 1 pixel, while with smaller resolution you would probably have 1 pixel spread over 2-3 physical pixels.


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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby 7Ds » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:00 am

ahh, didn't want to clog up the forum w/ my various screens. As for the pixels, its still limited by the monitor but the result is a better image just from the source being higher than what the display supports. ie, like Anti-aliasing applied w/out the usual perf hit. The NFS screens are the only ones downsampled and there is no Anti-aliasing being used.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby Sethioz » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:50 am

nah, images are fine. may aswell make use of unlimited space.

yeah it does smoothen the edges and stuff, acts like AA, however most games do not use full pixels. i mean games still spread graphics over pixels for higher FPS. specially if you zoom in or look objects closer, higher res should "fix" these things.
i still don't want to mess with my monitor.
i did get some insane resolution out of old 21' Dell CRT, like 2500x3200 something, but desktop looked so tiny lol, couldn't see shit.

bit offtopic, but you know how to force desktop resolution on XP ? i got netbook acting up and won't even show 720p, while it shows 1200x900 or some shit like that, so obviously things are not stuck behind graphics card.
or maybe its not offtopic, this isn't exactly about games.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby 7Ds » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:05 pm

It has been some time ago but see if u can acquire Power Strip for XP, u should be able to force w/e resolution u need. Another method would be to use the prog's listed here, http://www.overclock.net/t/1237470/howt ... n-the-game

They can create a custom display driver w/ the desired resolution. I know this works because I use to utilize then w/ my old 720p TV.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby Sethioz » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:54 pm

I can't seem to find power strip, is it free ?
if it's free and you have it, upload on forum.
if it's not free and you have it, dropbox it.

that link is only for nVidia, don't have nvidia in that netbook.
it has some odd gfx card. 256mb, but its some unknown thingy, can't even remember.
i just need it to work with my 42'' TV, even at 720p it would be ok. i think 1080p is too much anyways, since i wouldn't be able to see text from distance.
whatever res, i just want it to work.
right now it uses some stupid aspect ratio and it distorts the image so bad, that i can't read text at all.
netbook's default / max res is 1024x600 but it supports 720p for sure, its just stupid aspect ratio.

even if it says 720p, then physical resolution on TV, is NOT 720p, its like 780 or some shit like that. its fucking annoying.
windows says 720p, but when i use the info button on TV, it says something different.
thats why i need to FORCE the resolution.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby KEN » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:05 am

Since it's about resolutions in game I'll ask if you know of any way to force the aspect ratio?
I mean, game resolution at 1024x768 but aspect ratio at 16:9.
some games allow this, like gta 4 but some dont and I would like to do that.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby Sethioz » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:25 am

Ken what you are asking, is extremely stupid thing to do.
its exactly reverse of what i need, reason for what i need, is that i CANT read anything out of the screen if its stretched one way and reason for that, is wrong aspect ratio.
its like stretching widescreen movie onto 4:3 screen. that is stupid and should never be done, unless you enjoy watching distorted and blurry screen.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby 7Ds » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:44 am

Yea, not a smooth move to force an unsupported aspect ratio because it will never be the true aspect that ur display supports so in turn, it will look weird. 4:3 to 16:9 will just appear all wrong. In short, can't stuff a square into a rectangle.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby KEN » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:09 pm

Actually I need it for a few games.Assassins creed for example.

The game if running in any resolution other than the one's with 16:9 aspect ratio will display black bars on top and bottom. And well my monitor is 16:9. The minimum supported resolution on my monitor with 16:9 aspect ratio is 1280x720.
Tt highest settings @ 1280x720 the game lags from time to time and with low resolution it gets black bars on top and bottom so it makes me not wanna play it. That's why I need something which could force the aspect ratio to 16:9 with low resolutions.

There is already a fix for that for assassins creed 1 but not for other parts of the game.So was thinking how it is done?
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby 7Ds » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:06 pm

So it appears that u want to run some games @ an lower res than what ur monitor supports & when u do, black bars appear to compensate the missing pixels. I dunno what monitor or GPU that's in use but this should be fixable through drivers control panel or even w/ the screen's menu options. Look for something like just scan\scaling, etc.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby KEN » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:49 pm

No. My monitor supports a minimum of 640x480.
I want to run some games at 1024x768 but with a 16:9 aspect ratio. See in gta 4 settings, there is an option to select any aspect ratio at any resolution.So you can play it in 16:9 even at 800x600.

I dont mind the change in field of view but I mind the black bars I get in few games when not running in my monitor's default aspect ratio (16:9).
Example(Image from the internet, not my screenshot):
AssassinsCreedII6.jpg


These black bars disappears when I use any 16:9 resolution but those resolutions are high for my weak graphic card to handle the game at.
There may be more games which do that but I've only seen it with assassins creed and resident evil 4 until now.
So any way to change aspect ratio at will on any resolution?
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby 7Ds » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:29 pm

As said, ur drivers or the display options can force the image to use the whole screen, no matter what the res is.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby KEN » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:02 pm

I have ati 4350. "Composite sync" option in Ati catalyst works but only with desktop resolution not with games.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby Sethioz » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:25 am

you need better graphics card, you can't play modern games with that crappy card.
aspect ratio is wrong, because you're trying to stretch the resolution, if your monitor is 16:9, you should ONLY use 16:9 resolutions and NOT 4:3.
there is no option for it, because developers didn't think there is anyone who would like to fuck up their visuals by stretching the resolution.

7Ds, can you post it here, what you sent me in steam. steam doesn't save history and this is why i never use that crap for chat. i have 3 computers and 2 laptops and i only use messengers that save history permanently or forum. this is why i hate discussing things over messengers, because right now im o netbook and i want to try out the thing you mentioned, but don't have it here.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby 7Ds » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:52 am

Ok, to fix the overscan\underscan (image not fitting on screen properly or image simply too big).

The tools listed do not rely on any graphics card manufacturer specifically. You just want to manually create an display driver.inf that will override the current w/ the desired "supported" resolution.
No, PowerStrip is not free but still obtainable. Really, the best option would be the tools.


An video on how to go about it:
http://www.oc-burner.de/ftp/Videos/Down ... /EDID.html


Tools:

softMCCS
http://softmccs.software.informer.com/

Phoenix EDID designer
http://www.tucows.com/preview/329441

Monitor Asset Manager (MonInfo)
http://majorgeeks.com/Monitor_Asset_Manager_d1991.html


Another method is this:

Use SoftMCCS and extract the display's EDID.
Load the EDID into MonInfo and scroll down to Native/preferred timing.. Change it to what you know your display supports (look it up).
For Standard timings supported, remove all but what u want (this will force the display to have 1 specific native res).
Create the .inf and manually install the driver.
Reboot PC for the res to take affect.

If Native/preferred timing.. is already correct, then perhaps its a setting on the TV, like 1:1 Pixel Mapping, Just Scan, etc.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby Sethioz » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:35 am

excellent i got both the tools.
however where is EDID info in softMCCS ?
i forgot to mention, that i want to use my tv as extended display, not clone or extend desktop, just as secondary monitor.
so i can drag stuff to it.
im watching a movie right now and can't bother messing with it, but going to test soon. these tools look promising to get "unsupported" resolutions.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby KEN » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:08 am

Thank you, I will take a look into them soon.
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby 7Ds » Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:43 am

TDU2 w/ SweetFX 1.2

Before & After:

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TestDrive2 2012-10-19 17-28-10-60.jpg


DayZ - Panthera Island w/ SweetFX 1.2

Before & After:
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Re: Enhance PC Game Graphics.

Postby Sethioz » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:58 am

can't really see any improvement, it seem to be making things bit sharper and brigther (color + brightness).
what does it do exactly ? adjusts picture quality, like color, brightness and sharpness ?

does it have any impact on FPS ?

btw small suggestion, you should use PNG format to make screenshots, maybe thats why i can't see much difference, jpg is horrible if you want to showoff changes in imaging, it distorts picture a lot, but png keeps it as "what you see"

also does it have any impact on anti-hack systems? like do i get VAC banned from steam ..etc ?
i remember while ago VAC banned for fraps, lot of ppl got banned and said it was due fraps.
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