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Hi everybody and you Sethioz, :)
this site looks really cool and all the hacks are amazing.
So keep the good work guys :)

And here is my request.I'm playing Carom 3D,a billard simulator,but I'm not so good.There's a practice mode in the game in which you see lines which help you aim easily,but when I play online in training server or any other excluding novice server(the only server with lines),there are no lines.I think it could be possible to see that lines in the other servers but I need help from somebody who can write a hack or reprogram the game.
Thanks :)
P.P. Here's the game: http://www.gameis.com/download/?gameno=3&category=0
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it should have went into requests.
uhm 60mb ? i'll probably take a look in it soon, but im guessing that it might be value "1" when lines are on and value "0" when its off.
you can try that on your own and see the outcome. if you don't know how, then this should help you out:
Basic game hacking tutorial & Toolz for it
there's other stickys too, which may help you.
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Thanks,man.I tried with Tsearch to change the value but there were about 12 000 results.I tried with some of them but there was no result.
I'll be grateful for help when you can.
Greetings :)
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I tried with Tsearch to change the value but there were about 12 000 results.
this is why you filter doh, read the guide i linked you to. you filter until you end up less than 100 addresses, then you either try them one by one or all of them or just parts (if you change all, then game may crash)
I did took a quick look, but i didnt got online or anywhere else, cuz it wanted me to make new account, i just couldnt bother with that.
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im downloading the game just now. ill see if i can get it to work online
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na couldnt get it to work with search and filter. think it could be server sided.
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nah it can't be server sided. it is just animation for client, server may control it, but if you force it, then you will still see it.
maybe its just not 1 and 0. unknown search would take long tho, but most likely will give results.

just some info:

1. unknown
2. go out of game (not program), play online, offline...do as much as possible, then go back to practice and "not changed"
3. now go online and filter "changed"
4. back to offline practice and "changed"
5. do 10-30 "not changed" while on practice, you can also exit practice and come back to eliminate even more addresses.

something like that is just easy way to eliminate lot of wrong addresses.
considering that it is small program, i'd say it will not take over 10 mins. usually when i do unknown search in games like NFS, RE4. .etc it will not take me more than 15 mins.

sry guys, im not very active lately (long story), but at least ill try to guide you into right direction.
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Well, I don't think that Carom 3D is as simple as it looks like.
I personally tried what Sethioz suggested above several times(3 times to be honest and each time ended up with around 100 addresses
and tried them in groups :] ) and nothing happened. Lines just didn't appear.I think that it should be some kind of a combination between
addresses or something like that to make lines appear. Or maybe addresses that turn lines on are within a range and change every time you start the game. Anyway that's all suggestions. After all Carom 3D is one of a few games that there are no hacks or cheats for.
I would be glad if Sethioz could take a look at it. Here is info so you can access internet servers - ID: pooler-007 Password: ********
Thank you in advance :)
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i think it would have been better to pm sethioz your details rather than have them on display for all.
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Or maybe addresses that turn lines on are within a range and change every time you start the game
addresses always change, this is called DMA (dynamic memory allocation), but values never do. It was just easiest suggestion.
however i have failed like that several times, then tried again exactly same method and it works.
maybe it is not bytes at all, maybe it can only be done in float type (rare, but there's float types too).
or maybe it is 8 bytes not 4. that could also be.
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they might use a float with as value the length of the line
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what you say TR, maybe you wanna give it a try. maybe you find something interesting.
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TeamRetox wrote:they might use a float with as value the length of the line
well, that is quite possible. But the real question is which value makes lines visible?
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ok im not master with debugging, but it might be possible to find the function for it with olly.
TR should know more about debugging.

OR it just hit me. it could a string value. for example it could be "true" and "false" or "TRUE" and "FALSE".
use artmoney to make a quick search and see if you find anything with those.
it might also be something like "ShowLines=on" or "ShowLines=1" (but on this case you should have found it with search 1 and 0. so it might be "on" and "off" (again try with ON and OFF).
also it might be that when lines are ON then it has some kind of a value, but when values are off then address is blank (has no value, but tsearch should count it as 0).
you can also open "hex view" in tsearch and search for lines or showlines ..etc. anything it might be. that would give you some idea how it might work. if you do find something similar. post it up.

note - all these methods should still give you results in unknown search, because each string has a numeric value too.
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bizarre wrote:
TeamRetox wrote:they might use a float with as value the length of the line
well, that is quite possible. But the real question is which value makes lines visible?
search for 0 when its off, increased when its on
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my last suggestion is to use ArtMoney instead of all others.
set search type on "ALL" and do unknown or the one that TR suggested.
if neither of those searches give results, then i have to say that it is impossible to make with a memory editor. then it is probably something else or it's really built the way that online doesn't even have the function.

i maybe good with game hacking, some even say im Legend, but theres still things i dont know. for example on hackthissite there was a application mission where application had 2 buttons. you just had to click on one of them (both was fine), but trick was that as soon as you moved mouse on top of the button, it just grayed out. so i tried to freeze it with Tsearch, but on some weird reason nothing had effect. this is one of these things i did not understand, why it didnt freeze. but again i did not use artmoney's "all attack". it might have had worked, because artmoney's type = all searches for ALL values. strings, float, double..blabla. it will list every address that has changes.
even when its 4 byte value, it will list 4 different addresses.
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First of all, thanks for all your efforts and suggestions about the game :)
I think that I found something interesting when I searched with ArtMoney. I chose 'ALL' and searched for 'aim' (I shoud have thought about that earlier) and it found this:
1. In practise - 6 results(1 null string and 5 text)
2. In novice server(with lines) - 6 results(the same)
3. training(no lines) - different every time(2, 3, 4 or 6 results), but 1 of them is always a null string, others are text
Also the addresses always change when you exit practice, change servers or when you restart the game.
I read the article about how to use autohack with Tsearch but it can't search for text type, so I can't use it.
Another strange thing is that most of the time the null string is 4 bytes, but sometimes it's 3 or 2 bytes.
I would be glad if you could give some suggestions or any ideas about what I've found.Thanks
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well i cant help you with this, because i have no idea what you have found.
aim sure sounds like right thing, but i can help you out.
you do not need to find strings. artmoney shows strings, but they have numeric values too.

you can either convert it (which im not 100% sure how, prolly just into hex), but other thing which will work:
simply copy the address from artmoney and in tsearch just add new cheat into table and use that address.

note that you DO NOT need 0 before addresses. artmoney shows with 0, but tsearch doesnt use 0.
so just put that address into Tsearch to see value.
then go into that memory position and find out if this "aim" is 2 bytes or more.

how ?
in hex view, go to that address and simply look if value is over 2 or more addreses:
FF FF 00 00 < 2 bytes, cuz 2 last bytes are 00 00
FF FF FF 00 < 3 bytes... and so on.

or better yet, make a screenshot of this memory position and add it as attachment. hard to explain some things.
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Sorry, I didn't understand you correctly :)
Here is one of the values:
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1. i said upload it as ATTACHMENT
2. make screenshot of memory view, not addresses (addresses say nothing to me or anybody else)
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The game installer is only 60mb, so I downloaded it. I will report back if I find something interesting :)
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Unfortunately every time I try to enable autohack the game crashes.
Anyway, I discovered what is this Null string value. It's 'aim' when you're playing a game(I mean in a room, playing with somebody else)
and '0' when you are just in the server(not playing).
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maybe TR will figure something out, but as about debugger..
you should read Resident Evil 5 hacks, i had same problem in there. couldnt get debugger working, but there's solution..well kind a. just read that thread, the olly part.
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Nah, it's the same as with Tsearch. The game either crashes, either this message below pops up. Maybe Carom crashes because of my OS and something is unstable(I'm with Vista). I tried the same method on Windows 7 and the game crashed even earlier when I pressed F9 in olly. I doubt if TR has found sth interesting :)
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ok never seen this before. you should ask help from Luigi (aluigi.org). remember that he is not a hacker. he just knows a lot about olly, so im quite sure he knows what this error is all about.
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I was able to place breakpoints just fine :S
anyway tried some stuff, but got bored of testing.
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obviously its the dumb win7 ...
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Hi there guy's.

first of all i found this forum via google by looking for carom3d hack's
Actually, it's the only forum that has real Carom3D hack discussion.

i don't have much knowledge on coding, i did tried to get the add from via CheatEngine but i failed. i'm playing carom3d for 5 Year's and i never seen any kind of hack. i just want to get the line from Novice server.

anybody can help?
i also sorry about my english.

(it's really important for me guy's)
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seems like my webhosting fucked up the last post.
as i said, i dont really have anything to add. read thru the thread and see my suggestions.

online mode is different, but if there is a way to change into pro mode in single player (offline) so line disappears, then its 100% possible to get it in offline mode.
once done, then try same thing online, if it doesnt work, then server make a check. so you cant do it.

i dont really have ideas how to find that line tho.
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anyone have find some hack???
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people.. i've read that for hack this game we need to perform dll injection into Ogre engine but i'm not able to do this.. anyone can help me????
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i dont do graphics "hacks", i hack games, i dont write new mods (such as graphics aiming ..etc)
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