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Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby Sethioz » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:56 pm

i have came up with very crazy idea, but virtually it should be possible. so what i mean under remote cracking ?
it means that cracking is done remotely, using another computer which is not even range of the targeted wireless.

my idea, is to attach USB or other hardware, directly to another computer/laptop, where the cracking will be performed. in theory it should work just fine.
just like i have ran VMWare player in my win xp, i attached USB directly into VMWare player's running linux and used virtual linux to crack the networks. so in same way, im sure it is possible to give control of my USB adapter to somebody else, remotely.
right now i can not test, but i am certain that i can make it happen, i will take a deeper look into it as soon as i have change.

if i can do that, it means i can basically crack every wireless in world, using somebody else's computer. as from my point of view, computer makes no difference between virtual pc or real pc, which is connected remotely. however if it comes to hardware, there might be complications.
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby ronokae » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:52 am

I suppose it would work something the way a "bot network" does when people DDOS,
you would have to spread some sort of RAT (or teamview if its someone who knows you) and then
remotely control the hosts computer and use their PC to crack the network.
R.A.T's have the ability for you to stealthy download to the computer you have control of as far as i know
so most likely you would have to find someone who can code somewhat and have them code 1 program
that runs the aircrack suite with the exact commands depending on the system you hacked.
And then you would have to xfer the Program from Your pc to the victims pc (stealthy of course, though most rats have that feature, if not one of those kids at Hackforums.net would gladly take your money for one)
After that its pretty self explainatory
THIS IS ALL THEORY though.
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby Sethioz » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:51 am

you completely missed the point silly nut. whole point of this is to crack somebody's network REMOTELY without them having the software or OS for it.
if you have the software and linux, then any idiot can follow a guide, whole point is if other person doesn't have the software for it.

i can easily do that, using virtual machine. install backtrack or some other linux on virtual, then some kind of remote control (not sure which ones linux has, but it definetly has something to remotely control it), then just mount the USB wireless card so virtual pc has control over it and there you go. my idea is to crack somebody's network while they are on windows and they have no software for it at all, someone who doesn't have linux and no virtual machine either.

and why the hell would i want to install RAT on it ??? im not talking about hacking ppl, im talking about remote cracking of wireless, not cracking somebody's computer password or network. duh
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby ronokae » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:16 pm

Sethioz wrote:you completely missed the point silly nut. whole point of this is to crack somebody's network REMOTELY without them having the software or OS for it.


It's funny,"Silly nut", can you rename my username to that?
And I see where you're going with this, it seems so possible, yet the idea itself is impossible in essence, but you my friend, Sethioz, are a phenom.

Sethioz wrote:and why the hell would i want to install RAT on it ??? im not talking about hacking ppl, im talking about remote cracking of wireless, not cracking somebody's computer password or network. duh


In any case, I'm sure you were talking about hacking networks that weren't near you.
Therefore when i mentioned the RAT i was essentially saying that the RAT could be used to obtain a distant computer and utilize it as a medium, not hacking them for information but for your own use.

Now to the point with them not having the software or OS; If you could customize you're own USB in a manner that would allow you to interact with the foreign network without being near it, it would likely work. but that sounds like it would be a great deal of research to find something that is compatible with windows PCs (considering their lack of capability compared to Linux). Essentially I think what you would have to do is interact directly with the PCs Networking device, (perhaps through the kernel the way softice does?), since you're talking about working with a PC that lacks the OS/Programs.
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby Sethioz » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:47 pm

you are still missing whole point. you cant use your own hardware to crack a remote network ..
don't try to understand if you don't even understand the concept of this. how the fuck do you get 10000 miles range on a USB adapter ? monitor mode works for adapter that is near network, only thing that remote user has to have is wireless adapter.

my idea was to send drivers + software via internet and use that to put remote card on monitor mode.
i can't bother explaining, this is nonsense already, you dont know the basics.
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby ronokae » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:38 pm

There's a misunderstanding here.
I'm quite sure I get the conecpt, just not the complexities; However, your sentence structure varies often and the main idea changes, so I was unsure of which you were talking about: Cracking the network through a customized USB/other hardware attatched to another PC/Laptop OR Sending drivers + software to a remote card.

Sethioz wrote: my idea, is to attach USB or other hardware, directly to another computer/laptop, where the cracking will be performed. in theory it should work just fine.

As here I'd imagine one must:
- Load the USB with software that upon being plugged in - can interact directly with the network card, including a Remote Administration tool, so you would have control not the USB per se, but the PC from "...10000 miles range" <- [LOL'd at that. but I sense Bluetooth hacking, lesser range of course. Another topic..]
in theory it would be an extremely small VM almost, with only 1 features:network card access & interaction with remote host<:>client.

Sethioz wrote:my idea was to send drivers + software via internet and use that to put remote card on monitor mode.
I can't bother explaining, this is nonsense already you, dont know the basics.

like I said, the main idea changes, As here I'd imagine one must:
- To my knowledge there is no way to send any data directly from the internet straight to your card that isn't get/send. So i suppose you mean sending it first to the PC, but its not that simple I know. so here I have very little to propose. besides what I've already said above, Some type of coded masterpiece, or a compiliation of sources used in a complex manner.

In anycase I've given the only kind of feasible theory my scope of knowledge in computers would allow me to share, nobody else answered. Rest is up to you, Be chill mate.
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby Sethioz » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:52 pm

only way i see this, is to write some super small virtual machine with basic linux, like the ones that are built to run only one tool via terminal. they are like 1-2mb size.
virtual system i imagine would be less than 10mb too, just with terminal support.

then put it together to run as .exe on window and also add support for USB devices, that way you can send it to anyone, they run it, you take control of that virtual machine, assign their USB wireless adapter to it and then you have full control over it.
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby ronokae » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:46 pm

Exactly. In theory that would work flawllessly there's no obvious reason why it shouldn't. As far as my knowledge goes, it sounds like there would only be room for error on the part of the remote PC, a test of something of this sort would serve great. Perhaps first on an XP, then onward. I'm curious; was this idea pure speculation or do you plan to write this?
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby Sethioz » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:51 pm

im not that good in programming to write something like that, however i have feeling that something like that exists already, not the whole concept, but parts of it.

today i tried cracking network using virtualbox and backtrack5, but on some reason it didnt detect my USB device. it showed up just like any other device, but didn't appear as wireless adapter, while other USB adapter showed up just fine. these are the small issues that make it a lot harder.

no it wasn't speculation, i have that in mind.
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby Pkt.PoiSyn » Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:25 pm

This is actually possible. You would have to do some config ahead of time. I do this to a degree for Penetration Testing, and System Recovery.

First you are going to want to Look into building a virtual image in VirtualBox that will do everything you want. Probably have it set to share the Network Connection so it gets its own IP off the same network that the Target Laptop or PC is on.. Getting Internet access right off the bat.

Next you will want to have a Rather Fast, and Large USB stick.. I Strongly suggest Any of the Corsair VoyagerGT series.. Those are frickin fast as hell.

You can get a portable version of VirtualBox from http://www.vbox.me/ Then you would want to take your image that you created before and place it on the Stick with The Portable VirtualBox executable.

Then from there you would want to execute the portable Version of Virtual Box and then run the local image. This can similarly be accomplished on many devices.. MAC, PC, Android possibly even iOS. The OS simply needs to be able to mount a file in loopmode or run the Portable executable.

FYI this is my first post, but I stumbled on the site and wanted to say hey.
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Re: Remote cracking of wireless - crazy idea

Postby Sethioz » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:32 pm

i know its possible using portable OS. I can easily do it in windows, using virtualbox + BackTrack5 + Alfa USB adapter, but my idea is to make this whole process very small and fast so it can be done over internet and so that other person does not need any knowledge of computers at all.
all they do, is download a small package (10mb or so), run it and it will connect back to me and let me put his wireless card on monitor mode and crack the network, so they don't even have the tools.

Obviously backtrack5 has lot of drivers installed already, because i can easily run several cards on monitor mode without installing any drivers.
My idea is to take those drivers from MY backtrack5, so person on other end doesn't even have drivers or OS, just some small package giving me direct access to his/her wireless card, whenever it is USB or PCI or internal.

So that small tool will send wireless adapter info and lets me control it as its my own, that's easiest way to put this.
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