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Re: Fake trainers for sale cheathappens

Postby Caliber » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:26 pm

Sethioz wrote:yup i saw, just didnt want any of that in public. however we can still discuss other stuff in public. like the svchost.exe thing and the tracking system, which you explained in PM.
i have to say that my opinion about you has defiently changed, but this svchost.exe and trojan alert thing still bugs me.
typical is that kaspersky havent replied to me. anyone else want to try ??? i think they have blocked my address after about 50 false positive emails.
their mail for reporting new viruses and possible/confirmed false positives is > [email protected]

you have to provide them with the download link and as much info as you can. if its not dangerous and is what you said it is, then they have to remove it from their blacklist.

Caliber, specially for you. if your trainers are completely harmless as you say (to your pc and private information), then you should really contact Kaspersky and possibily others too and let them get their facts straight. lot of Luigi's tools get detected too and its just lame.
i really want to see what kaspersky has to say about it. will they blame it on you, that you have used some malicious code to make some checks/tracking or will they say its false positive and remove it from their list .. or just ignore the mail.



we have a specific person who deals with all of these situations (false postives with antivirus packages). unfortunately even though we are a legit business with no warez or 'scene' underpinnings, our trainers get lumped into the same black 'hole' of warez and 'scene' programs where there is alot of malicious software or software that is not 'safe' or is 'illegal'. our experience with these antiviral people is that they wont do anything unless you are activision or blizzard or some huge studio and they are contacted by lawyers with threat of action. as i said, their detections are based on heuristic scanning (detecting a series of bytes or a memread with crc checks in small areas of .exe to determine 'possible' viral activity by a program). this isn't the same as CONFIRMED VIRUS in a program, only that it has similar code in small sections that is found in some other viral signatures. since viruses attach to other programs, read and write to process memory, and try to 'protect' themselves from disassembly or debugging, then of course our trainers are going to have similar code snippets.

i appreciate the suggestions and we are doing all we can to try and minimize the antivirus false postitives. our latest template is much more less prone (per trainer) to put out antiviral heuristic scan flags. i change it as needed to try and keep it from doing that. bigger trainer titles (especially our promos) have alot more people downloading and submitting our trainers to jotti and other sources to confirm that they are safe, and unfortunately even though they are safe (and reported as so), when jotti and other places get a ton of the same .exe they begin to scan those files more closely and you can see that they begin to flag those bits of our program that deals with read/write process and protections built into our trainer .exe's, and thus we get send to various antiviral companies as 'possible' signatures for this or that virus. it's stupid really, but is an unfortunate casualty to the reality that antivirus stuff has to be proactive to signatures to be more effective. if you run a program for the first time and it's not in the virus vault then you have no defense against it if it is a virus. however, if that virus has a signature and it's similar to other viruses, then heuristic scanning can save you from possible virus infection, but this also flags non-viral programs with similar code as viral.

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Re: Fake trainers for sale cheathappens

Postby Sethioz » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:52 pm

as i said, kaspersky blocked my email or just ignoring, cuz i sent them confirmed false positives from Luigi's site.
how can a proxy data pipe be a virus ??? they say its dangerous blablabla.

my conclusion about CE trainers, is tht its justified actually. i agree that malicious program is what is meant to do harm, but again you cant argue over it. its only point of view. there is no right and wrong in world. what is right for one person is wrong for other.
what im saying, is that your trainers have this tracking system as you explained. so basically, you can make it grab any information you want, right ?
it doesnt really matter if its for bad intentions or protective (to protect trainer). what matters, is that it CAN do it, thats why its detected as trojan.

its like, if you hack into bank, but you dont steal anything, you still get busted for that. they bust you only cuz you was able to. government cant stand ppl with more power than they. its same with virus companys. if program acts like virus, but for good purposes, they still list it as virus, cuz it has potential to fuck something up. see the point ?
even tho your trainer's tracking system is only to protect the trainer, it could do some harm if you wanted to.


additionally about anti-virus, i think tht anti-virus is quite useless these days. just as you said, if there is a new virus, it wont get detected, that is why i use zonealarm's program control. virus might get in, but it cant do what it wants. ZA will pop up alert that "blah.exe" wants to connect to internet or wants to use svchost.exe to send a message..etc.

i PM you about something, check your PM.
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Re: Fake trainers for sale cheathappens

Postby Sethioz » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:26 am

btw Caliber, one update about you not being able to find simple things. i just remembered Need for Speed Undercover, where you was not able to find as simple thing as MONEY/CREDITS.

thread is here
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i have mentioned it there too, that cheathappens ppl were not able to even make a simple money hack. instead you had change parts and car costs to 0 or 1, which obviously took way longer to simply change money.
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Re: Fake trainers for sale cheathappens

Postby Sethioz » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:11 pm

and onother update about RE5 trainer, timer hack just crashed my game, while infinite health works. so fail, AGAIN.
thts why i hate your trainers, i cant see how its possible to make a failure on such easy thing. all you have to do, is go to mercenaries mode and test it. as soon as i hit the button, crash.
and yes, other hacks do work, well not all probably, like ammo.

once again, this is why FREEWARE and OPEN SOURCE is always and ever better than payed, ppl who want money for their stuff, only care about money. they just hit it up and fast, fast to the market. but ppl who do freeware and open source, are actually interested and concerned if they have failed in something.
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Re: Fake trainers for sale cheathappens

Postby Sethioz » Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:27 pm

UPDATE regarding TDU1 and TDU2. i haven't used cheathappens fake and false trainers myself, because they rarely work the way you they should.
so problem in tdu1 and tdu2, is that caliber is too dumb to realize how tdu games work.

i have recently looked into some advanced hacking in tdu2 and found out that a simple "speed" boost is not simple at all, but caliber is too dumb to understand it. he never tested properly. i cant say anything about the latest CH trainer tho, havent tested because those greedy fucks ask way too much money and no demo either.

so problem is that in tdu1 and tdu2 speed is not just speed, its direction based spreaded over few addresses.
i couldnt bother with it, because now i can hack car stats and its way better than messing with some lame speed. so in other words, there are 2 values mixed with eachother. speed and direction.
in tdu1, caliber (not sure if it was him, but he did it in tdu2 for sure) simply tested it in one place and when he saw car boosting, he obviously quit and tought it works (what idiot lol). but if you turn LEFT and drive in that direction and boost, then it throws your car RIGHT, not forward.

im gonna start selling my own trainers soon, so CH will be HISTORY, with their poor support, poor trainers, BASIC trainers (they neve get beyond basic of the basics) and expensive prices and FAILS.
when i release a trainer, it means i have played with it myself and tested it properly + im going to make multiplayer trainers mostly.
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Re: Fake trainers for sale cheathappens

Postby deviated » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:48 am

Interesting topic but this caught my attention.

Sethioz wrote:yes, cheathappens is full of idiots, they can't make anything work and their trainers doesn't even go near what can be found on my forum. those IDIOTS never even test their trainers, they just make, but never test. it is complete mystery for me, how they make a trainer if they don't test.

from my head, i can bring another FAILURE from them, it is Resident Evil 5, my trainer is ONLY working trainer in world for it. reason is simple, resident evil 5 uses xlive and it performs some kind of a check, if something is missing (like an function that trainers nop out), then follows an instant crash or exiting of game. so those retards just put a trainer together without testing. with their trainer you can play about 1-5 minutes and crash.
as usual, i bypassed it by giving huge amount of "whatever you want" instead of nopping.


Not true. I guess you don't know about deviated trainers. We made a working trainer for it a few days after the game was released
http://link-removed---resident-evil-5-plus-9-trainer/

I am not saying your trainer doesn't work but it is NOT the ONLY working trainer for the game.
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Re: Fake trainers for sale cheathappens

Postby Sethioz » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:46 am

kind a wrong topic to advertise this in, since this is about cheathappens trainers not working.
as about that trainer, never seen or heard as i don't usually search for trainers, i make them. either way, i bet that the trainer uses code injection which makes it detectable.
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Re: Fake trainers for sale cheathappens

Postby deviated » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:42 am

I wasn't advertising, just correcting you. And which trainer doesn't use code injection ?. Any hack thats modifies the game in anyway depends on code injection. And the trainer avoids detection by simply bypassing/disabling the code checks.

I don't know how you made your trainer but it seems you're completely oblivious to the tactics used for evading xlive. This actually makes me interested to know how you did your hack because you don't use code injection, simple nops here and there only ?
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Re: Fake trainers for sale cheathappens

Postby Sethioz » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:47 pm

this is wrong topic for discussing this. maybe on your site / forum ppl do whatever they want without anyone controlling them and post whereever they want, but in here we keep discussions STRICTLY in topics, meaning this topic is about cheathappens fake trainers.
if you want to discuss other things, open new topic in correct area (about trainers, should go into game hacking).
and in short > i tell trainer to find the address (like ammo) and overwrite the value, without making any changes to the code, so xlive has nothing to detect. again, if you want to discuss this, then NOT in this topic.
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